I found this randomly on a "metroidbrainia" list, and I am already in love. I hope you play things smart and get a publisher with the experience and drive to get this game up to share the spotlight with its predecessors. Here's hoping it can be the hit game that all the fans of Animal Well can eagerly dig into!
I know time is a social construct and it's not end of the year yet, but I would like to leave this preemptive "ahem..." here for your consideration. :)
There is a boss cheese where if you scan midair while falling, there is an angle where you can scan the boss and activate its charge without using the little birds. This skips 10-20 seconds.
what is your route? I can't even get to the boss that fast.... Is there some skip I am unaware of?
I get to scan at about 35 seconds, and I enter the bird room, open up the turtles, go left into the bouncy room, double jump at the very left to enter the upper room next to the boss, and this can't be done at your speed (or I am just bad at double jumps lol)
OMG that is crazy!! Would you mind sharing how many species there are total? I don't know how to tell how close to 100% I am ^^;; Also any advice on the stone where you have to avoid the warp to the softlock to get there would be appreciated-- I can get there but I have no idea how I'm supposed to get back to a save without softlocking afterwards
Yeah, I figured, it's trying to find a way to a save after scanning the stone takes forever when I don't even know where to go on the first jump and missing it means I have to reset and lose ~5 minutes of progress ;.; Congratulations anyhow; knowing it is possible is pretty cool :)
oh shoot i've broken that room in the latest update! :0 the only way to get out now is to reset the game and load your save... (i'll try to fix this today!)
How do you number the rooms? While reading the comment section, I saw stuff like room 2.5 or 5.7 and I have no idea what that means. Also, how do you do the double jump thing?
Edit: I also just realized that you can start the boss, exit the room and come back and you will be able to finish the game even before you start the second phase lol
Well, I couldn't replicate it, but I just activated the first phase of the boss, left the boss room, went back and the boss was still active (I could start the next "attack"), but the barrier was gone and I could just finish the demo. I'm not sure, but it could be related to quitting and reloading a bunch of times on the same save before the bossfight. I also visited the out of bounds section.
Anyway, I found another way to practically skip most of the boss. After starting to scan the big bird during the first phase, it will normally push you off the platform, but if you start scanning again while being pushed, you'll just clip through the bird. If you already knew about that and decided not to remove it, I think you should make the timing more precise or make the strat harder in some other way, because I actually found this on my first playthrough and it feels way too easy.
Edit: I actually switched from Past Simple to Present Simple in the middle of a sentence and then went back to Past Simple, it should be fixed now.
Edit 2: Wow, that's a ton of text in a single comment.
I tried to replicate your bug as well, but couldn't get it to happen. I may need to research it further...
Yeah, I knew about the scan skip, but good call - it's too easy to do accidentally. I made it more precise, so it's something you can still do but not as easily! This change will be included in the next demo update.
Thanks for the long comment! :> It already made the game better.
Could you make the tree in 2-3 scannable? The rest of the plants are and that one makes me sad :( Well, the rest besides the grass on dirt blocks, but that's different!
And is there an easier way to get to 1.6 than by double jump from 2.5 to 2.6? By trying this jump i sometimes fall down by the waterfall and have to either go very long way around back or quit and start again at save at 1.8.
Good on dev for making release be "when it done" instead of a year. Even if it took a few updates. Gotta keep a healthy relationship with these projects.
please help, Ive been trying everything I can think of the get out of the spot where you first get scanner but Im just stuck in that room! I cant jump high enough to get out, help?!?
Spent in it around 2 and a half hours so far, finished with... emm... unexpectedly high %, but still sure i didn't do everything i could've done. Left few small places unexplored. Highly recommend.
*spoilers below, idk how to do that fancy blue on blue text :p*
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Ok, i think i found new bug, since i didn't see anyone here mention it. If you jump on top of a top Kaakana in 3.5, and activate scan, you can phase through walls while getting carried away. Pretty neat, didn't have to learn a double jump (never was able to do that either). Easy way out of bounds.
I decided to try the game out, because i remembered Beyond Good & Evil, photographing some monsters and fantastical creatures, and loved the idea. But the out of bounds, meta jokes, easter eggs and, well, so much more content than expected, it's just amazing. Hope the full version will be as full of surprises.
I love how the double-jump can be used to find 'secret' areas. It really captures that sense of mystery. Looking for a mushroom cap that lights up at the perfect frame to assist in this. It's out there somewhere!
I *think* that one of the butterflies flew off to another screen and got lost somewhere in the world. Hopefully I can track them down or they respawn in the original screen but I need to test this more.
I may try to decode the rune language to see what they say :D maybe the runes are just translations of the area names?
Only downside of the demo is accidently falling into a screen of no-return where the demo ends and having to load a save.
Favorite tune so far is when scanning the comet. So ominous!
I should probably make an explanation blogpost of the runes. 🤔
Spoilery responses:
TBH, I've removed the frame-perfect double jump from the upcoming full game (demo still has it!), it was a bit too easy to find accidentally (someone even thought it's a mandatory technique for progressing!), and it also made speedrunning infuriatingly difficult. So it gotta go!
PS. At the moment, the only way to get the butterflies back is to load a save.
Hi, can anyone please give me a hint how to get to 2.6 if it's possible? From 2.5 I can't get to the right (too high jump). I managed to get to the narrow horizontal tunnel in 3.5 (the one that the topmost bird flies through) and throug it to 3.6, but there seems to be no way to ride that bird to jump up from 3.6 to 2.6.
First you need to go to the bouncy thing with hat above the two large snails. There use the double jump to get on the ledge above the bouncy thing. Then go left as far as possible through a room with all the bouncy things that you scanned thus far. After that room is a bear and some bouncy flowers. To the left of the bottom parts of the flowers (one screen below the tops of the flowers) is a secret passage to a blind room (you need to scan for ground). There you must get to the top left via some clouds. There you will transit to room on the left where you will fall. There is a whole new area after that and from there you can through some more rooms fall through to the top right of the map. Haven't played for a while, so I'm notu sure about the last part, but the whole route is quite convoluted and long.
There's so many good things in this.. So unique, I remembered it after 2 years back, when I played it for 15 min. And now again I must quit after 15 min, because controls are really unpleasant (sliding!, speed), music is broken (? all glitchy and harsh) and graphics are just a little too unclear... It needs some polish... but very interesting!
Please just open Celeste and copy the physics! And graphical clearness.
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I found this randomly on a "metroidbrainia" list, and I am already in love. I hope you play things smart and get a publisher with the experience and drive to get this game up to share the spotlight with its predecessors. Here's hoping it can be the hit game that all the fans of Animal Well can eagerly dig into!
Wann werden wir die Vollversion sehen? :-)
hoffentlich nächstes Jahr! Aber ich kann nicht sicher sagen… es ist doch “nur” ein Hobby :D mehr Info in dem nächsten Blogpost!
I know time is a social construct and it's not end of the year yet, but I would like to leave this preemptive "ahem..." here for your consideration. :)
:D
also, almost already written the yearly status update \o/
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It was fun !
thanks!
This will be post on steam?
EMUUROM will be released on Steam, yes! Wishlist the game to support development :>
Anything new in 0.8.7 or just polishing?
mostly polishing and bugfixes… and prettier stars!
I also tried shipping a compressed version of the code for the first time; more about that in an upcoming blogpost!
thanks for the upload! checking it out right now!
Is there a discord for EMMUROM/EMMUROM Speedrunning?
yes! welcome ^^ http://discord.gg/Yw4Qy7M
you can double jump????
by pausing mid air when your speed is zero, I believe you can jump again.
yup, it's a frame perfect trick!
(it's also a demo exclusive trick, because its existence makes speedrunning a PAIN)
I think this is a really good time
There is a boss cheese where if you scan midair while falling, there is an angle where you can scan the boss and activate its charge without using the little birds. This skips 10-20 seconds.
nice find! and yeah sub 2min is a very good time, i've gotten 1:10-1:30 myself :D
what is your route? I can't even get to the boss that fast.... Is there some skip I am unaware of?
I get to scan at about 35 seconds, and I enter the bird room, open up the turtles, go left into the bouncy room, double jump at the very left to enter the upper room next to the boss, and this can't be done at your speed (or I am just bad at double jumps lol)
i think with first try double jumps I could get sub 1:50
I keep on getting 2:0x.xx because I can't get the double jump consistently
Speedrunning would be a nightmare with the full game lol
Great idea, great execution, great presentation. Thank you!
Great comment! :D
This project is super cool. Just got 100% in the demo.Very exciting stuff!
thanks for playing! well done! ^^
OMG that is crazy!! Would you mind sharing how many species there are total? I don't know how to tell how close to 100% I am ^^;; Also any advice on the stone where you have to avoid the warp to the softlock to get there would be appreciated-- I can get there but I have no idea how I'm supposed to get back to a save without softlocking afterwards
I think I've forgotten too much to be of use here. I don't think you can lock yourself out of 100% though?
Yeah, I figured, it's trying to find a way to a save after scanning the stone takes forever when I don't even know where to go on the first jump and missing it means I have to reset and lose ~5 minutes of progress ;.; Congratulations anyhow; knowing it is possible is pretty cool :)
There's any map that I can compared?
Maybe this one! (Warning, contains demo spoilers!)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/810464844133826570/1208877763600195645/SPOILER_20230805210735_1.jpg?ex=65f75726&is=65e4e226&hm=7c346bb5826a484115b50f94d15e96dc3ffc1d6014723513302d48a961f185aa&
Could you reupload plz? (This content is no longer available.)
Here, i uploaded it to my drive!
Thanks
i like the theme
and the idea
do hope comes out soon!
doing my best for that to happen, thanks!
Hey I love this little game ! It was fun !
thanks for playing!! ^^
When will realease?
Not quite yet! I'm writing the status update that gives some more info, please look forward to it!
how to scan stuff
you need to get the scanner first!
ty
I don't really have a way of getting out of here, what do I do
oh shoot i've broken that room in the latest update! :0 the only way to get out now is to reset the game and load your save... (i'll try to fix this today!)
EDIT: Fixed!
I know time is a social construct, but can we please get a status update?
oh thanks for reminding! i'll write one asap...
ahem... :)
hngnngh, I guess it's time...
This is fantastic!
AMAZING!! I love it
How do you number the rooms? While reading the comment section, I saw stuff like room 2.5 or 5.7 and I have no idea what that means. Also, how do you do the double jump thing?
Edit: I also just realized that you can start the boss, exit the room and come back and you will be able to finish the game even before you start the second phase lol
the numbering is shown when
scanning the signposts!
the double jump is a
frame-perfect trick you can do by scanning midair.
Hmm, finish the game before starting the second phase? ;0 Do you mean you were able to skip the third phase somehow? How?
Well, I couldn't replicate it, but I just activated the first phase of the boss, left the boss room, went back and the boss was still active (I could start the next "attack"), but the barrier was gone and I could just finish the demo. I'm not sure, but it could be related to quitting and reloading a bunch of times on the same save before the bossfight. I also visited the out of bounds section.
Anyway, I found another way to practically skip most of the boss. After starting to scan the big bird during the first phase, it will normally push you off the platform, but if you start scanning again while being pushed, you'll just clip through the bird. If you already knew about that and decided not to remove it, I think you should make the timing more precise or make the strat harder in some other way, because I actually found this on my first playthrough and it feels way too easy.
Edit: I actually switched from Past Simple to Present Simple in the middle of a sentence and then went back to Past Simple, it should be fixed now.
Edit 2: Wow, that's a ton of text in a single comment.
I tried to replicate your bug as well, but couldn't get it to happen. I may need to research it further...
Yeah, I knew about the scan skip, but good call - it's too easy to do accidentally. I made it more precise, so it's something you can still do but not as easily! This change will be included in the next demo update.
Thanks for the long comment! :> It already made the game better.
The numbers are also shown in the map and make a grid from 1-8 in the top right to 8-1 in the bottom left.
Could you make the tree in 2-3 scannable? The rest of the plants are and that one makes me sad :( Well, the rest besides the grass on dirt blocks, but that's different!
love the game telling me congrats, also I love the fact that we get credits, very nice game
XD I love how the game tells you that you're out of bounds, though I had to repeat the trek a few times due to a certain hidden pit
any chance you can show the keyboard buttons in the main menu instead of exbone buttons next update?
like a option to toggle either one would be nice and being able to to aim with the mouse too
also i loved the game before, glad to play it updated now
hmm the game should show keyboard buttons if you're using keyboard to play it!
i'm planning to jump into the version 1.1 of the game engine in the future, so it should be much easier to rebind your keys.
could of been a issue on my end then, using a old af laptop
updating the engine might help ye and thx for responding
Hooray, new update. Are there any new areas available?
nope, just polishing :) i'll post a devlog about it later!
devlog out now! https://borbware.itch.io/emuurom/devlog/568214/0821-time-for-world-domination
Any update on progress? (no pressure :) )
Let's see...
- Lately I've focused on bugfixing & gameplay fixes, which is actually the reason why I haven't had that much new stuff to showcase
- But! I finally got the second-to-last bossfight done a few weeks ago. Not that much left!
- Yesterday, I finished the EMUUROM OST. All songs are now done!
It's all coming together, slowly but surely!
thanks
I call the first annual "Meeting of the Hats" to order! :)
Haa, congrats!
There's one more hat to be found....
When will we see the full version? :-)
Hi, is there a way to scan the cloud in 5.7?
And is there an easier way to get to 1.6 than by double jump from 2.5 to 2.6? By trying this jump i sometimes fall down by the waterfall and have to either go very long way around back or quit and start again at save at 1.8.
Nope, afaik scanning that cloud is impossible.
And no, that's the only way to 1.6...
BUT! I don't want to let you and other out-of-bounds explorers down, so I made the OOB areas a bit easier to traverse in 0.7.0.2, which is out NOW ^^
Good on dev for making release be "when it done" instead of a year. Even if it took a few updates. Gotta keep a healthy relationship with these projects.
There's a smiley face in the demo end screen thingy :)
You should update that supposed release date to 2023 ;-)
yeeeeah, 2022 is running out of days!
please help, Ive been trying everything I can think of the get out of the spot where you first get scanner but Im just stuck in that room! I cant jump high enough to get out, help?!?
Edit: stupid fucking secret tunnel.
Note to self: I should probably make the secret tunnel more obvious.
Ok, this game is amazing, wow, good job!
Spent in it around 2 and a half hours so far, finished with... emm... unexpectedly high %, but still sure i didn't do everything i could've done. Left few small places unexplored. Highly recommend.
*spoilers below, idk how to do that fancy blue on blue text :p*
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Ok, i think i found new bug, since i didn't see anyone here mention it. If you jump on top of a top Kaakana in 3.5, and activate scan, you can phase through walls while getting carried away. Pretty neat, didn't have to learn a double jump (never was able to do that either). Easy way out of bounds.
I decided to try the game out, because i remembered Beyond Good & Evil, photographing some monsters and fantastical creatures, and loved the idea. But the out of bounds, meta jokes, easter eggs and, well, so much more content than expected, it's just amazing. Hope the full version will be as full of surprises.
Keep up the good work, borb ;)
Thanks for the commentary! You bet there will be TONS of surprises to be found...!
The phase-thru-walls thing, although originally a bug, is an intended feature at this point :D
(PS. You can do the fancy blue text by setting Format to Heading 1.)
This has come together so nicely over the months!
*spoilers*
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I love how the double-jump can be used to find 'secret' areas. It really captures that sense of mystery. Looking for a mushroom cap that lights up at the perfect frame to assist in this. It's out there somewhere!
I *think* that one of the butterflies flew off to another screen and got lost somewhere in the world. Hopefully I can track them down or they respawn in the original screen but I need to test this more.
I may try to decode the rune language to see what they say :D maybe the runes are just translations of the area names?
Only downside of the demo is accidently falling into a screen of no-return where the demo ends and having to load a save.
Favorite tune so far is when scanning the comet. So ominous!
Thanks for continuous support! :D
I should probably make an explanation blogpost of the runes. 🤔
Spoilery responses:
TBH, I've removed the frame-perfect double jump from the upcoming full game (demo still has it!), it was a bit too easy to find accidentally (someone even thought it's a mandatory technique for progressing!), and it also made speedrunning infuriatingly difficult. So it gotta go!
PS. At the moment, the only way to get the butterflies back is to load a save.
Secret preview of the canyon at the boss bottom left
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This game is great! Congratulations!
thanks!! Making it greater every day!
Hi, can anyone please give me a hint how to get to 2.6 if it's possible? From 2.5 I can't get to the right (too high jump). I managed to get to the narrow horizontal tunnel in 3.5 (the one that the topmost bird flies through) and throug it to 3.6, but there seems to be no way to ride that bird to jump up from 3.6 to 2.6.
You need to use the hidden frame-perfect double jump for getting to 2.6!
I found another way (although a little complicated) through the secret passage under the bear with the tall bouncy flowers
hehee, nice!
Can you give more details?
First you need to go to the bouncy thing with hat above the two large snails. There use the double jump to get on the ledge above the bouncy thing. Then go left as far as possible through a room with all the bouncy things that you scanned thus far. After that room is a bear and some bouncy flowers. To the left of the bottom parts of the flowers (one screen below the tops of the flowers) is a secret passage to a blind room (you need to scan for ground). There you must get to the top left via some clouds. There you will transit to room on the left where you will fall. There is a whole new area after that and from there you can through some more rooms fall through to the top right of the map. Haven't played for a while, so I'm notu sure about the last part, but the whole route is quite convoluted and long.
There's so many good things in this.. So unique, I remembered it after 2 years back, when I played it for 15 min. And now again I must quit after 15 min, because controls are really unpleasant (sliding!, speed), music is broken (? all glitchy and harsh) and graphics are just a little too unclear... It needs some polish... but very interesting!
Please just open Celeste and copy the physics! And graphical clearness.
I just opened Celeste and copied the physics (forgot to paste them, though).
I also added graphical clearness (wiped my monitor with a screen cleaner)